Anthology of American Folk Music

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September 03, 2007

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Jerome Clark

It seems to me that another point badly in need of being made here is that non-rock forms of music do not and should not have to validate themselves by their connections, real or fanciful, to rock. I believe the technical term for this sort of rock-music imperialism is rockism.

Whether it's old ballads or Delta blues or whatever, these largely rural musics have their own validity, their own meaning, and their own points of reference. As I was reading your words, I happened to be listening to Josh White's recording of the traditional "Blood Red River." I was led to reflect that he and it are what they are: a superb performer and a gripping song that require nothing from anybody except an attentive listening.

The Celestial Monochord

Editor's note: Yeah, that's a great point. Almost everything ever reissued dating from before the 1950's makes some claim that it "influenced" rock, as if that's some kind of recommendation. Besides, those claims are often rather dubious, historically. Thanks for the reminder, JC.

But on the other hand, I don't paint Jody Rosen with that brush. Go directly to his work — he writes for Slate, wrote a book on Irving Berlin, and curated the CD "Jewface." You'll find that he doesn't push this "roots of rock" business routinely. He does a bit in the New York Times article, which drew my attention and ire because of his decision, there, to specifically antagonize Anthology freaks. As discussed above, I think that strategy misses a golden opportunity to bring so-called "rock snobs" up to date on the current thinking about folk, blues, authenticity, and commerce ...

LostChords

Thank you very much for the fascinating article about "The Moonshiner's Dance" and the equally interesting article in the blog.

The implication was that Dylan turned out to be the least authentic things you can be — Midwestern, middle class, and Jewish. If a folksinger is supposed to be one of "The People," surely he can't be THAT.
This was not that different from what happened to Irving Berlin when he published "God Bless America" in 1938 but he was confronted with much more mean-spirited attacks because he got a lot of problems with people who thought that an immigrant shouldn't write a "patriotic" song. Contemporary critics from the right side of the political spectrum wrote against "those pseudo-Americans who are now wrapping themselves in the flag, noisily singing ‘God Bless America’".

The post-War folk and blues revivals often seem to me pathologically obsessed with authenticity and commercialism, as abstractions, and the idea of Jewishness seems to have gotten drawn occasionally into those neuroses (in part, by conflating Jewishness and commerce — a conflation my own arguments have a habit of reproducing).
In its early stages the so-called "Folk Revival" was a conservative counter-model against the urban "commercial" popular music of the day produced by immigrants and African-Americans. This juxtaposition between "authenticity" and "commercialism" has been retained until today.
[Jody Rosen] lets The Anthology keep its "authenticity," the myth that it's the pure product of amateur, oral transmissions stretching back to antiquity.[...]why not keep The Anthology on the table, and show that it's a much more commercial, worldly document than we've been told?
It is of course simply a matter of definition: what is a "Folk song" and what is "commercial". The Blues & Country music of the 20s and 30s was first and foremost popular music that has been redefined by Folklorists and music critics as some kind of "Folk Music". Recently I wrote an article about "Mary From The Wild Moor", a 19th century popular song that is today used by artists to prove their "roots"-credentials: www.morerootsofbob.com/Ballads/Mary/mary.html

A lot of so-called "Folk songs" have made similar trips.

[Rosen is] absolutely right to assert the importance of Tin Pan Alley to today's popular forms.
Yes, but it is, for example, somehow difficult in Dylan circles to discuss the question if and how Bob was influenced by pre-60s popular music.

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