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August 25, 2006

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Cowtown Pattie

Always enjoyed John Prine's stuff. Very interesting thread here on the "back to the Land" idea in his music.

It still speaks to me...we want so much to get out of the city and back to the country. Somehow.

Googie

Of all Prine's songs, "Clocks and Spoons" was always my favorite song to listen to--and the toughest to actually play as a solo musician. I'd always sensed its banjotic (to coin a horrid word) feel, especially considering Bromberg's lead guitar-playing, centering as it does up there on the high G to a drone-like effect on the cut.

I thought the song would be a slam-dunk to render on the banjo. It never turned out that way. A Scruggs/ Kieth bluegrass picker, I could never find the groove in Prine's oddly-phrased little melody, which drifts around in the almost ragtime-y chord structure (G-B7-C-D7). I always wondered if some strong, rhythmic work by a good clawhammer player (which I am not) could more successfully coax this song out of the banjo. The song threatened to come apart unless held together by the steady bass 'chunk' that I could only get from fingerpicking it on a guitar. The two extra picking fingers also helped, for it needed as much orchestration as I could generate. A 12-string filled in those lonely, empty spaces of the melody even more.

It was as if the melody had a constitutional discomfort with being alone; it needed merry music playing in the background to keep it company, like someone trying to keep lonliness at bay by leaving the radio on as "white noise". Or, perhaps, it was "like the Sunday funnies after everything's gone off the air." It's a sad little Blanche DuBois of a tune; delicate, wistful, heartsick.

Prine is one of those songwriter/vocal stylists--like Dylan and Waits--whose lyrics are so arresting and whose singing is so effortlessly conversational that you can sometimes miss what gorgeous melodies they write.

Jerome Clark

I am perplexed by your remark about an "old-time string band revival -- a late 1960's and early-1970's phenomenon that seems almost totally forgotten today."

Do you mean to say (a) people have forgotten the OTSB revival of those years or (b) OTSB has all but slipped from memory and performance?

If (b) -- the only reading I can infer -- you are pretty seriously out of the loop. The OTSB revival of the early 21st Century dwarfs the previous one. The music is more interesting, more diverse, as well. It ranges from bands with soulful takes on the purely traditional (Hunger Mountain Boys, Foghorn, Troublesome Creek) to mixed new-and-old (Reeltime Travelers, Crooked Jades, Old Crow Medicine Show, Uncle Earl) to wildly adventurous approaches (Duhks, Bills). Even more amazing, a good number of these outfits are playing as much for rock crowds as for folk audiences.

Moreover, many young pickers seem more interested in forming OT than bluegrass bands -- a rather remarkable phenomenon in itself. Speaking as an experienced listener and a record reviewer who is regularly at the receiving end of discs from OT bands even I haven't heard of, I can assure you that this is the happiest, most creative era for OTSB that anybody's seen since the 1920s. Far from being forgotten, OTSB music is roaring with fresh life and vigor.

Editor's Reply: Hi Jerome -- I've been meaning to write you to thank you for your encouragement during the run-up to my appearence on Dave Hull's show. You really did help settle my nerves.

I agree with everything you've written, of course, and no, I certainly don't mean people have forgotten Old Time music. The fact that there is a revival happening right now is the one of the reasons for the existance of this blog. Heck, I started to play clawhammer in late 2002. I'm PART of the phenomenon you've described!

What I mean is that there was a distinct explosion in interest in Old Time around the early 1970's, and that particular event does not appear to be widely discussed. It's not part of the standard history of Old Time music that you typically hear. It hasn't been presented as a watershed moment very often.

What happened around the early 1970's -- the Chapel Hill scene that centered around the Hollow Rock String Band and Alan Jabbour's work with Henry Reed, the success of the Highwoods String Band, the popularity of the "Clawhammer Banjo" series of records put out by County Records, etc. -- this seems to be fairly rarely talked about or known about outside of those old enough to have experienced it. It took me about eight years of reading intensive about "roots music" before I even started to slowly piece together my own dim awareness of it.

Of course, one can bum-ditty oneself silly all day and have no need to know about any of this, but I'm saying that if you want to understand the historical context for the recording of Prine's Diamonds in the Rough, it's good to remember the Old Time revival of the early 1970's.

 

dakota dave hull

I guess I'd better toss my two cents worth in here, too. The Red Clay Ramblers would have to be on any list of '70s old-timey bands, somewhere near the top. Deeply rooted in traditional music, they certainly were the most innovative band of that era. It didn't always work, but it was always interesting. Bum-ditty.

 

Jeremy Stover

I've only just discovered John Prine over the past few years, and he's become my favorite songwriter in short order. I always used to hate it when friends would latch onto a new favorite band or musician and pester me incessantly until I listened to their stuff, but that's exactly the torment I'm currently inflicting on my loved ones. I feel it would be offensive of me NOT to force Prine's music on them.

In the course of this, I find that the song that immediately catches their interest and wins them over is not "Paradise" or "Hello in There" but little ol' "Clocks and Spoons". That's a pleasant surprise, just like this series. It's a beautiful song from a fascinating album, and I thank you for your insightful writeups on a work that few people discuss.

Lauren

I always thought Clocks and Spoons might've been about heroin addiction because the first thing that grabs me is the song's sad tone ... Not to mention the metaphors and word choices. Spoons, turning out the light, shoot the moon between the eyes, sending me to the sunny countryside. The empty room metaphor is in Sam Stone, too, I think. The next stanza has shooting the moon keeping the narrator in sunny countryside. Then ... the last has the narrator wondering how he did that then ... waiting for the dawn ... screaming take me back to sunny countryside. It sounds like a person escaping pain .... I'm sure John saw lots of musicians back then turning to heroin. Sad ...

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